.----- Original Message ----- From: Klaliff To: email@example.com ; Holy_War@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 6:56 PM Subject: RE: Holy War: Glad Meggie, Thank you for this post. Your courage to tackle the most hardened of Israelite men (if they ARE Israelite men) is a testimony to the strength of God when we know His Word and rely on His guidance. You are intellectual and have good debate skills, and your patience is EXTRAORDINARY. I wish I could answer this point by point, but have some web designing to do this afternoon, and this darned e-mail is not as efficient as posting on the actual board. Regarding Willie Martin and his brotherly affection for the Lindstadt, Knight and Savage lists, I am dumbfounded as to why he is still on Holy Wars. I don't see any posts from Holy Wars posters supporting his seedline doctrine, and it looked like he was in support of the foul post that Lindstadt e-mailed reviling you, Andy, Richard and the rest of us. Now, as I question his motives, he uses the same evasive tactics as the Lindstedt crowd. As you have stated to Knight, no matter what you say, they will take issue with. So much for positive Christianity. It doesn't bode well when we can't put our best face forward to the world. We air our differences and now it looks like the war is among us, not between us and God's enemies. The enemies are getting a real laugh out of this. I've been discussing this with my husband. He thinks that with our lack of overall effective CI leadership, there is a power struggle for the CI name. Hence, the initiation of the DSL and OSL terminology. He believes that the seedliners feel the pinch of decreasing numbers, especially when CI membersip has increased in general. The Seedline hayday was back in the 50's and 60's when a drastic distinction had to be made between British Israelism, who believed that Judahites were the jews and those of us who knew that the jews had nothing to do with the 12 Tribes. After the jews turned against the British in 1948 when the bandit state of Israel was established and jews started killing British subjects, some of British Israelism no longer regarded the jews as a related tribe and that was the beginning of relating the jews with Esau Edom. For Wesley Swift, Bertrand Comparet, James Wickstrom and James K. Warner, it wasn't enough to accept the jew's conspiracy against Christianity. They had to go one step further in demonizing jews with a cosmic evil. They expounded a theological doctrine, in alignment with the dualist notion of good and evil, that demonized jews, putting forth the premise that the Prince of Fallen Angels impregnated Eve. Thus the jews became the satanic seedline of history. Howard Rand was in the same time period, but never agreed with the Seedline doctrine. In the 70's, new Identity scholars such as Sheldon Emory and E. Raymond Capt, in pursuit of the truth of who, or what Satan was, debunked and transcended the two Seedline teaching in a scholarly fashion, tracing the lineage of jews through Esau. In the 80's, the two Seedline doctrine was further opposed by the next generation of CI ministers including Peters, Weiland, Earl Jones, Weisman, and Steven Jones. But the seedliners have to take this to such extreme proportion, taking it outside Biblical scholarship, and now, as you have evidenced, have mud on their face when asked to produce the evidence. And if this next generation of Seedliners is the men you have been encountering on these other lists, it is evident that Christian love is to be discarded, and an emphasis placed on adding Talmudic leaven into Christian doctrine in both thought and behavior. Seedliners, instead of rightly dividing the Word are now butchering words to fit their agenda. I call them wordists. Christ would denounce their pharisitical practices as He did 2000 years ago. The bottom line is this: the fruits of unity are not evident in the Seedline camp, because there is discord even amongst themselves. For example, Willie Martin states he hates the other races, yet Bob Jones stated on a recent Wickstrom broadcast 3/15/02)that there was nothing in the Bible that said he should hate the other races. Wickstrom himself is now so far out on the issues he's presenting on his show, that it has all the trappings of a tabloid show, meant to tickle itching ears, rather than air good sound CI doctrine (II Timothy 4:3). And the John Knight types act like Nicodemus with their incredulous reactions to sound Biblical teaching (John 3). So I guess the fight for power continues on, and does God want us fighting each other, or does God want us fighting His enemies? The Bible is pretty plain on God wanting us to fight His enemies, and since our focus is not on what God wants, we continue to wander in the wildnerness. So I say, we must stay on focus of God's love of us, keeping His commandments, and continue to grow, while remaining Christlike, because in the end, this is what is required and what we will be rewarded for. So, as you have indicated in your post that you use your discussions to draw out the unsoundness of the other side, I testified this morning at church that I am learning to reward good for evil. That is my lesson in all of this. Stay in touch and e-mail me anytime. I take heart in your goodness and sincerity..
Commentary:1. This is a message from Klunt (Debbie) Downey to Meggie (Baal-Bitch) Butts/Gabrielle. Both of these evil twats are infamous for deliberately joining listservers and later forums, demanding that the Christian Identity congregation allow females to [d]rule over them, and then either taking over the list and then banning their Christian Identity enemy men, or in theysselfs getting banned and then whining about the lack of Christian ethics when they are driven out. These evil cunts are worse than jews in that regard. If they don't get their way and the forum or listserver owner refuses to take sides, then these evil cunts then go to where they are safe to bitch about the matter, like they did on Harold Covington's old 'TruthCommission' yahoogroups listserver. Klunt Downey is notorious for this censoring of Christian Nationalist White man speech, and she practiced such with glee back when she used to run wild on $permFront. Today Klunt and her meercat baal-priest Mark Downey have evil heathen baal-priest twats like the swinish sow Lycia do their dirty work for them.